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When is the optimal time for the mail-notification in Foswiki?

Martin Seibert
Hi all,

I know, that I should create a wiki page for such a mail. But I am in  
a train right now. So please let me ask you the following:

- When is the optimal time for the mail-notification in Foswiki?

When talking about the email-notification feature in wikis our  
customers often ask me, when is the right time to send out the mail. I  
tend to answer:
"That depends on what your goal is. In the short run, you want people  
to understand that they can use the wiki to prevent mails, that are  
cycling in vain (just like this mail here!). So if you send the mail  
in the morning at 8.00 am you will get a lot of attention, because a  
lot of managers use the time frame of the early morning to work  
through their mails. In the long run, the email notifications add up  
to the pile of mails, that every employee regularly suffers from. You  
might want to shift the notification mail in the afternoon, so that it  
is not distracting people from their important work and 'value time'  
in the morning."

So, you see. I am not suggesting anything and have no glue. When do  
you send out your notification mails? Do you also send them out daily?

I am looking forward to get to know your strategies. :-)

Viele Grüße

Martin Seibert
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Re: When is the optimal time for the mail-notification in Foswiki?

David Wolfe-4
In my company, people use notifications only for topics for which they  
need immediate notifications. An example is a list of global changes  
for a publication. If a publisher requests that all red, 12 point  
heads should now be green and 11 points, it's critical that all  
involved in composing those pages get that information immediately.  
The team members subscribe to that topic. Our notifications are set to  
be sent about every 3 minutes, I think. As soon as someone gets the  
information from the client and update the topic on the wiki, pretty  
much everyone else gets that information right away.

If people were subscribing to notifications so broadly that the emails  
were not useful, I would consider that a misuse of the notifications.

David Wolfe
Creative Solutions
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On Apr 9, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Martin Seibert wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I know, that I should create a wiki page for such a mail. But I am in
> a train right now. So please let me ask you the following:
>
> - When is the optimal time for the mail-notification in Foswiki?
>
> When talking about the email-notification feature in wikis our
> customers often ask me, when is the right time to send out the mail. I
> tend to answer:
> "That depends on what your goal is. In the short run, you want people
> to understand that they can use the wiki to prevent mails, that are
> cycling in vain (just like this mail here!). So if you send the mail
> in the morning at 8.00 am you will get a lot of attention, because a
> lot of managers use the time frame of the early morning to work
> through their mails. In the long run, the email notifications add up
> to the pile of mails, that every employee regularly suffers from. You
> might want to shift the notification mail in the afternoon, so that it
> is not distracting people from their important work and 'value time'
> in the morning."
>
> So, you see. I am not suggesting anything and have no glue. When do
> you send out your notification mails? Do you also send them out daily?
>
> I am looking forward to get to know your strategies. :-)
>
> Viele Grüße
>
> Martin Seibert
> //SEIBERT/MEDIA/CONSULTING
>
> //SEIBERT/MEDIA GmbH / Rheingau Palais
>  Söhnleinstraße 8 / 65201 Wiesbaden
>  GF: J.Seibert und M.Seibert / AG Wiesbaden: HRB11502
>
>  T.+49-611-20570-20 / F.+49-611-20570-70
>  [hidden email]
>  www.seibert-media.net / http://blog.seibert-media.net
>
>
>
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Re: When is the optimal time for the mail-notification in Foswiki?

Martin Cleaver
Related topic: can we get Subscribe Plugin installed on Foswiki.org?

Thanks, M.
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On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:34 PM, David Wolfe <[hidden email]> wrote:
In my company, people use notifications only for topics for which they
need immediate notifications. An example is a list of global changes
for a publication. If a publisher requests that all red, 12 point
heads should now be green and 11 points, it's critical that all
involved in composing those pages get that information immediately.
The team members subscribe to that topic. Our notifications are set to
be sent about every 3 minutes, I think. As soon as someone gets the
information from the client and update the topic on the wiki, pretty
much everyone else gets that information right away.

If people were subscribing to notifications so broadly that the emails
were not useful, I would consider that a misuse of the notifications.

David Wolfe
Creative Solutions
[hidden email]



On Apr 9, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Martin Seibert wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I know, that I should create a wiki page for such a mail. But I am in
> a train right now. So please let me ask you the following:
>
> - When is the optimal time for the mail-notification in Foswiki?
>
> When talking about the email-notification feature in wikis our
> customers often ask me, when is the right time to send out the mail. I
> tend to answer:
> "That depends on what your goal is. In the short run, you want people
> to understand that they can use the wiki to prevent mails, that are
> cycling in vain (just like this mail here!). So if you send the mail
> in the morning at 8.00 am you will get a lot of attention, because a
> lot of managers use the time frame of the early morning to work
> through their mails. In the long run, the email notifications add up
> to the pile of mails, that every employee regularly suffers from. You
> might want to shift the notification mail in the afternoon, so that it
> is not distracting people from their important work and 'value time'
> in the morning."
>
> So, you see. I am not suggesting anything and have no glue. When do
> you send out your notification mails? Do you also send them out daily?
>
> I am looking forward to get to know your strategies. :-)
>
> Viele Grüße
>
> Martin Seibert
> //SEIBERT/MEDIA/CONSULTING
>
> //SEIBERT/MEDIA GmbH / Rheingau Palais
>  Söhnleinstraße 8 / 65201 Wiesbaden
>  GF: J.Seibert und M.Seibert / AG Wiesbaden: HRB11502
>
>  T.+49-611-20570-20 / F.+49-611-20570-70
>  [hidden email]
>  www.seibert-media.net / http://blog.seibert-media.net
>
>
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Re: When is the optimal time for the mail-notification in Foswiki?

Will Norris
i don't see why not.  make a task item and assign it ("Waiting For")
to the InfrastructureTaskTeam

will


On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Martin Cleaver <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Related topic: can we get Subscribe Plugin installed on Foswiki.org?
> Thanks, M.
> --
> [hidden email]
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> +1 416-786-6752 (GMT-5)
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:34 PM, David Wolfe <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> In my company, people use notifications only for topics for which they
>> need immediate notifications. An example is a list of global changes
>> for a publication. If a publisher requests that all red, 12 point
>> heads should now be green and 11 points, it's critical that all
>> involved in composing those pages get that information immediately.
>> The team members subscribe to that topic. Our notifications are set to
>> be sent about every 3 minutes, I think. As soon as someone gets the
>> information from the client and update the topic on the wiki, pretty
>> much everyone else gets that information right away.
>>
>> If people were subscribing to notifications so broadly that the emails
>> were not useful, I would consider that a misuse of the notifications.
>>
>> David Wolfe
>> Creative Solutions
>> [hidden email]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 9, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Martin Seibert wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I know, that I should create a wiki page for such a mail. But I am in
>> > a train right now. So please let me ask you the following:
>> >
>> > - When is the optimal time for the mail-notification in Foswiki?
>> >
>> > When talking about the email-notification feature in wikis our
>> > customers often ask me, when is the right time to send out the mail. I
>> > tend to answer:
>> > "That depends on what your goal is. In the short run, you want people
>> > to understand that they can use the wiki to prevent mails, that are
>> > cycling in vain (just like this mail here!). So if you send the mail
>> > in the morning at 8.00 am you will get a lot of attention, because a
>> > lot of managers use the time frame of the early morning to work
>> > through their mails. In the long run, the email notifications add up
>> > to the pile of mails, that every employee regularly suffers from. You
>> > might want to shift the notification mail in the afternoon, so that it
>> > is not distracting people from their important work and 'value time'
>> > in the morning."
>> >
>> > So, you see. I am not suggesting anything and have no glue. When do
>> > you send out your notification mails? Do you also send them out daily?
>> >
>> > I am looking forward to get to know your strategies. :-)
>> >
>> > Viele Grüße
>> >
>> > Martin Seibert
>> > //SEIBERT/MEDIA/CONSULTING
>> >
>> > //SEIBERT/MEDIA GmbH / Rheingau Palais
>> >  Söhnleinstraße 8 / 65201 Wiesbaden
>> >  GF: J.Seibert und M.Seibert / AG Wiesbaden: HRB11502
>> >
>> >  T.+49-611-20570-20 / F.+49-611-20570-70
>> >  [hidden email]
>> >  www.seibert-media.net / http://blog.seibert-media.net
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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